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Post by boylecomm on Jun 9, 2008 22:04:04 GMT -5
I searched with no luck?
Is there a simple wiring diagram floating around here?
I want to run, well the bike & head light/higbeam, taillight, brake light, tag light, key, that's it.
Anyone?
Thank You..
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Post by stevec5000 on Jun 9, 2008 23:49:39 GMT -5
It's already simple! That's all they have now except for a horn and turn signals. Just follow the diagram in the Haynes or Clymer manual but don't connect the horn or turn signals if you don't want them.
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Post by boylecomm on Jun 10, 2008 11:14:06 GMT -5
Hey Thanks Steve.
I have ordered a haynes manual but it hasn't shown up yet.
I guess I should have worded this differently?
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Post by stevec5000 on Jun 10, 2008 14:46:28 GMT -5
Just having lights and a horn is simple in concept until you look at the bike and see all the wiring then it doesn't seem so simple even without the horn and turn signals. My headlight shell is completely full of wires and connectors which is why you need the manual.
I guess everything has to connect somewhere and if I was doing it from scratch I would use screw terminals for everything instead of plugs.
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Post by boylecomm on Jun 10, 2008 16:45:52 GMT -5
Well the manual showed up today & that diagram is pretty busy we'll see where I end up? I was thinking when I wrote this of scrapping the harness and starting fresh. I have real minimal diagrams for all 50's-80's big twin Harley "choppers", I was hoping some might have done the same for the SR.
Thanks again Steve
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Post by colinjay on Jun 10, 2008 17:48:03 GMT -5
You sould be able to simplify the wiring on a SR to a small degree, but you need to know/have the contact/switching details of all the switches you are going too use.
I have recently fitted a SR electrical system onto my XT500, using XT switch gear (different to the std SR ones) and have at least a 1/2 dozen wires that are not used, and the bike is fitted with indicators (I suppose that 30 years in the electrical trades helped a bit).
If you have some time, and can supply me with details of the switchgear etc, I could draw up a simple circuit for you.
CJ
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Post by boylecomm on Jun 10, 2008 18:21:28 GMT -5
here's an example of a big twin magneto system, kind of what I was looking for but for an SR  |
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Post by stevec5000 on Jun 10, 2008 20:33:51 GMT -5
That's pretty funny, something so simple that even Harley owners could understand it! If you want to make a new wiring harness it should be fairly simple to take a spool of wire and just connect everything point to point but you'd probably have to use the manual for reference though, I don't know of any cartoon style wiring diagrams for the SR.
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Post by colinjay on Jun 10, 2008 21:38:35 GMT -5
A diagram like that pretty well confirms everything that I have always suspected about Harley owners/riders (both my younger brothers are Harley owners).
I have started drawing up a simple system for the SR and will hopefully post it tomorrow.
CJ
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Post by aero on Jun 11, 2008 4:52:44 GMT -5
Here's one I made for and XT chopper, converted to 12 volts. The ignition and charging will be slightly different, but the rest will be the same if you are building a simple loom from scratch. I use relays and LEDs as it allows the use of light cable to the handle bars, making it easy to hide. I will post a circuit diagram of the SR when i get some time, that uses a Volvo headlamp relay which allows one button to switch between hi and low when the head lamp is on and the same button flashes the hi beam when the headlamp is off   |
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Post by davedunsboro on Jun 11, 2008 7:07:54 GMT -5
There is also a Cycleserv manual which is pretty good too(I've got the Haynes & Clymer too)Very handy as you can cross reference to get the answer you want ! The Cycleserv has a really good wiring diagram ,which is handy coz somebody took the drawings out of my Clymer before I got it.If you didn't need the tail,indicators,brake,brakeswitch,selfcanceling indicator system that would get rid of alot of wire in the loom & you could get away with a neat little multicore from under your seat to your headlight & a 2core from under the seat to the coil with a few cable ties . Where you come up from your frame to the steering give it a good loop up & back down into the headlight & it'll last for ever (thats where they break). Solder all your joints after you test it & presto ! Oh yeah use a 1.5mm multicore flex ,that suld carry any current a SR or XT can give cheers Dave.
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Post by stevec5000 on Jun 11, 2008 8:18:30 GMT -5
Here's one I made for and XT chopper, converted to 12 volts. The ignition and charging will be slightly different, but the rest will be the same if you are building a simple loom from scratch. I use relays and LEDs as it allows the use of light cable to the handle bars, making it easy to hide. I will post a circuit diagram of the SR when i get some time, that uses a Volvo headlamp relay which allows one button to switch between hi and low when the head lamp is on and the same button flashes the hi beam when the headlamp is off That can be simplified for the SR a bit by leaving out the ignition circuit since it is self contained and doesn't connect to the lighting circuit anywhere and there is no wiring that can be done for it besides connecting the kill switch lead to the ign. switch. |
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Post by boylecomm on Jun 11, 2008 15:34:05 GMT -5
Yes now we're getting Closer.
I was just thinking anyone who's building a cafe, street tracker, or chop of some sort would benefit from such a diagram.
I got into the headlight last night too much craziness in there. At this point I'm not sure if I should start from scratch or just pull the wrap off the harness and remove everything I'm not using?
Thanks everyone I appreciate the help.
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Post by solo2racr on Jun 11, 2008 16:28:09 GMT -5
.....just pull the wrap off the harness and remove everything I'm not using? This is the method I used. It worked well and have no need for a headlight bucket to keep all the extra wiring in. ;D |
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Post by colinjay on Jun 11, 2008 17:27:12 GMT -5
Just to add too the possibilities, here is a copy of a STD SR500E (Australian model) wiring diagram with most of the unnessesary wiring deleted.  You could still delete the illumination lamps in the speedo and the front brake light switch. If you choose to go down this road and strip out the STD wiring loom, remove one wire at a time, checking that every ting still works as you go as it can be difficult to put something back after you have hastily removed it. CJ |
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