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Post by stooedwardes on Jan 22, 2008 2:05:57 GMT -5
I need to remove my clutch (just to see what is going on with it) but do not have a "clutch holding tool". I saw the earlier post titled "$1 clutch tool" and would like to give it a go.
Therefore is there anyone in Brisbane who either has a tool (and doesn't mind me borrowing it for a weekend) or else has a bunch of old clutch plates they want to give me?
cheers Stew
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Post by caferacercarl on Jan 22, 2008 20:15:38 GMT -5
Just take the bike to Albion mc and ask dave to rattle gun off the clutch hub nut, thats how we in the trade do it, theres to many models to have a holder tool for everything, Dave's number is 32621800, he knows a lot about 500 yammys regards carl.
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Post by stooedwardes on Jan 23, 2008 7:13:56 GMT -5
Thanks Carl, I shall give Dave a call. Only problem is that it ain't moving anywhere at the moment...I will have to call that lovely friend with the ute.
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Post by bigshingle on Jan 23, 2008 9:18:24 GMT -5
stooderwardes, you may be in luck. You probably already know this, but to just take the clutch out and replace it you won't need any special tools.
A special tool is needed only if you are going to remove the clutch housing (I've heard it called a "cage" "basket" and "boss.")
If you don't need to get to the kick starter gears (behind the housing) or if you're not going to split the case, you don't need to take the housing off.
Carl, unless you have a way to hold the housing, it just spins when you put a rattle gun on the hub nut.
And because the housing is cast aluminum, it doesn't seem like it would take much to break it ($$$) The hub nut on my bike hadn't been touched since it was put on at the factory decades ago, so it was snug — real snug, and I needed a way to hold the housing firmly without damaging it.
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Post by caferacercarl on Jan 24, 2008 1:56:59 GMT -5
I have been undoing these nuts since the bikes were new, the sticky ones only need you to re fit the plates, apply finger pressure to the plates and rattle gun, if no rattle gun put the bike in gear, stomp on the back brake,get someone to apply finger pressure to the plates and undo with socket/breaker bar at same time [ have done it that way at a rally] I'm trying to share decades of being in the industry fella's, for free, a rare thing these days. regards. carl.
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Post by bigshingle on Jan 24, 2008 9:17:47 GMT -5
Carl you're the man — no dispute there. After all I've been profiting from your advice for quite awhile (well before I got around to registering) and I don't pretend to have your knowledge or experience. What you're saying makes sense if the engine is still in the bike. But if someone is pulling the engine to disassembe it, they need to remember to take the cover off and remove the clutch housing as the first step before the chain is disconnected from the drive gear or anything else is done. Also, unless a guy has a friend standing around, after he's removed the pressure plate, which covers the clutch nut, he's going to have to put pressure on the plates with a finger or two, hold down the rear brake lever with the other hand, and taking the rattle gun in his mouth and finding the trigger with his tongue... Otherwise, once you have the engine on the bench, you're going to need a way to hold the clutch housing — which is why Yamaha makes the special tool called for in the service manual. Or you can use two or three of the old clutch plates you've just removed and put a tool together on the cheap in no time. Henry Ford: "If you have a need for a tool and don't buy it (or make it) soon you find that you have paid for it and don't have it." Please don't take this wrong or think I don't deeply appreciate all the pro advice you've regularly contributed — as you say, for free. It's one of the best reasons to drop by here. I've learned a lot from you.
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Post by fenz on Jan 24, 2008 15:15:38 GMT -5
I have been pulling bikes apart for years and the rattle gun has not failed me yet.You may need an extra set of hands..... offer a couple of beers and they will come........
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Post by alancase on Aug 16, 2008 2:51:29 GMT -5
I just jammed a rag in between the cogs to lock the gears, applied finger pressure with one hand and used the other hand to undo the clutch nut. The bike had sat under a peice of tin in a paddock for 22 years previous. Regards Alan
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Post by caferacercarl on Aug 21, 2008 4:20:31 GMT -5
Tech these Days teaches the apprentices that if they don't have the tool, they can't do the job, same with the manual, what you did Alan a lot of shops these days couldn't move beyond, well done and thanks for doing it without tool number @##$$%%^^!!! and Fenz it bang on, rattle guns are cheap now and a really good investment, even for home use, you'll be surprised how many uses they have. cheers.
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