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Post by lurch on Oct 4, 2007 11:47:52 GMT -5
OK the time is coming near to attempt to start the rebuilt engine on my cafe project I'm using a separate oil tank so here's what I've done so far Primed the feed & return oil pipes Filled the oil filter compartment Removed tappet covers & squirted fresh oil over cam & rockers Squirted a small amount of oil into combustion chamber as the motor has stood 3 months since rebuild Charged up battery Connected fuel supply (tank not finished yet ) SO Should I fill the oil tank up or try and get some oil into the engine cases ? I think I could pour say 1ltr of engine oil into the crankcase breather then the rest into the oil tank Would it be a good idea to put the bike in a high gear & push it around with the spark plug removed to try and circulate oil around the motor ?. If & its a BIG IF  the motor does start what should I check as soon as its running ? I've been actually looking for excuses not to start the bike up till everything is finished but the time is coming & a Mans gotta do what a Mans gotta do .I'd like to ride it at least once before winter sets in All advice & comments very much appreciated LURCH |
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Post by fenz on Oct 4, 2007 16:15:46 GMT -5
Sounds like you have most bases covered.I have in the past pulled the bleed screw on the oil filter cover and got the motor turning over with the plug out to get the oil pumping around the engine before start up.
I also usualy coat the cam and rockers with a good quality assembly lube (just hangs in there longer then oil).
When you do fire it up just look at the bleed screw on the filter cover to make sure you have oil pressure(should get there pretty quick if every things primmed)
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Post by wotavidone on Oct 4, 2007 17:28:36 GMT -5
Lurch,
I'm fairly sure my shop manual says to put a certain amount of oil in the engine, rather than the oil tank, before starting it.
I'll have a look at the manual tonight.
Mick
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Post by frankyb on Oct 4, 2007 22:56:22 GMT -5
Hi lurch, put a litre down the crankcase breather hole and the balance in the tank [ haynes manual]. If it has new clutch plates, take the plug out for zero compression, pull the clutch lever in and kick it through a few times to get some oil between the plates. After it fires, bleed it as fenz says, and check for leaks and untoward rattles knocks bangs clunks and clatters. If you have any of the above, then it will sound like a fairly normal sr motor. Cheers Franky b.
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Post by lurch on Oct 5, 2007 6:48:30 GMT -5
Thanks Guys Just waiting now for a little filter supplied by sjef (thanks mate ) to arrive but just my luck the mail service has gone on strike in the UK  Should I use a flushing oil for the initial start up or go for the good quality 20/50 ? Although I rebuilt the motor under operating theater conditions of cleanliness theres bound to be the odd bit of fluff or hair in the motor somewhere , God knows I pulled a few out when building it heh heh Cheers LURCH |
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Post by lurch on Oct 9, 2007 6:33:17 GMT -5
Does the carb need to be primed some how ? or just let the float bowl fill up There's too much going on with this bike all at once ,new motor ,rebuilt carb & I haven't got a clue about kick starting it
Cheers
LURCH
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Post by StewRoss on Oct 10, 2007 4:07:10 GMT -5
All these ideas are OK...I'd put some oil in the cases and using the cam lubricant is a good idea. Squirt some down the holes for the oil lines and into the engine...they have O rings so they re-seal OK... Put in a good quality mineral oil and change it after about 200ks or so...just a figure that seems reasonable. The carb will be fine...I am always aprehensive starting a new engine for the first time as well. SR  |
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Post by joneill4 on Oct 12, 2007 14:43:04 GMT -5
Have you started that thing yet Lurch? C'mon man kick that thing!
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Post by lurch on Oct 14, 2007 5:39:53 GMT -5
She's a runner ;D ;D ;D ;D
Fantastic,though the arch of my right foot is killing me . I had to change the bent kick start from WM (from Vanem) for the initial start up as the bent one doesn't offer as much "Wang* ,but after a few attempts she started . I primed & lubed everything as recommended by you guys then as soon as the motor started I cracked open one of the banjo bolts to the twin oil feed line & after a couple of seconds oil came pouring out .I certainly recommend the high volume oil pump from KEDO Germany 50% more oil to the nice new Cam & followers ;D
The oil is circulating fine through the oil cooler (XR400) & returning back to the custom oil tank I've fitted.
The Wiseco piston is mechanically noisier than the standard one but I was expecting that ,just sounds like the tappets are a little on the slack side but I like it that way, gives the bike a more British sound .
While on the subject of sound I did a swap with Nemesis for the stainless reverse cone mega that was on the bike that he bought on ebay UK thanks Mate
WOW it sounds fantastic but next doors dog doesn't seem to impressed, spent most of the day howling in the back yard, heh heh I'll get a baffle for it when I get the bike on the road .
I've just got the paintwork & seat to do & its about finished ,Then I'll be looking for another project ,thinking of a Yam TRX850 cafe racer next, we'll see
LURCH
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Post by davedunsboro on Oct 14, 2007 7:09:34 GMT -5
Good effort Lurch you must be stoked ! Funny how you finish 1 project & the next 1 just seems to becon . I'm quite keen on a TRX850 too (I've actually been thinking about it alot) I actually know of 1, he wants about $5000AUS for it & its in good knick too ? (the 5 grand is a problem at the moment) . I'm sure it'll be gone when I get it but thats life so good luck with it all , cheers from Dave.
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Post by lurch on Oct 14, 2007 11:03:33 GMT -5
Thanks Dave I'll never attempt to paint a tank again ,its driving me nuts . I've bought everything ,tank liner ,2 types of spray guns ,air fed mask ,loads of primer ,base coat ,clear coat, abrasive paper, polish the works ,just one thing I forgot to get[glow=red,2,300] SKILL[/glow] Looks easy when you see those guys on the TV doesn't it I'm told that I have the patience of a saint but this job is really getting to me ,the shed is slowly turning from a red cedar color to a dull Grey At this rate a alloy tank is looking very high on my list of priorities  Even the guys at the paint shop are taking the piss asking what battle ship I'm painting Perhaps I'm to fussy about the standard of the paint work but I'LL know it aint right & it'll bug the hell out of me I need a drink  LURCH |
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Post by andy on Oct 19, 2007 13:08:09 GMT -5
hi lurch,good to see your up and running,dont think i'm being disrespectful to your painting skills but for not much money you can have your tank,side panels,seat finisher done proffesionally as i did.i payed a mate £125.along with having my wheels re-laced in polished stainless it was the best money spent/invested on the bike.i was over stratford last sunday afternoon on the thumper,let me know if you fancy a meet up at a neutral venue sometime before the weather turns to shite.
regards,
andy
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Post by lurch on Oct 20, 2007 3:26:40 GMT -5
Hi Andy I don't think I'll get the bike on the road this year ,well I could but I want everything to be perfect on the bike before I show it off. I've mucking around with it for about a year now so I'm not in any great rush . Just wondering if You or any of the other Brit guys are going to the Stafford show this weekend ? The UK thumper club guys usually have a exhibition stand,I'm hoping to get there tomorrow (Sunday) but tonight is my birthday booze up so I may feel a little delicate in the morning  I'll arrange a meet up when when I get the bike on the road your only 20 mins down the 69 from me . LURCH |
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the motor does start what should I check as soon as its running ?
