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Post by hopwheels on Oct 15, 2006 12:47:16 GMT -5
Anyone know if an FZR triple tree will bolt straight onto an SR frame (no spacers, or machining parts, etc.)? Thanks!
Gary
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RD
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Post by RD on Oct 16, 2006 2:51:27 GMT -5
Hi Gary
Somebody did once tell me that one of the triple clamps from an FZ 250 is a straight swap, don't ask me which one though. It has a polished aluminium top clamp and looks heaps better than the standard unit.
good luck with the research and let us know if you find the model.
Cheers
Rich
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Post by StewRoss on Oct 16, 2006 3:22:18 GMT -5
Hi Gary, Not sure about the swap...the SR is a little different in some ways to most of them.... You should be able to make do though...spacers aren't too hard to sort out and I'd also use tapered rollers...you could get an alloy stem machined up to suit the FZR lower that is based on the SR's dimensions. You can then remove the FZR one and replace it with the alloy copy you had made...it would need to be dimensioned to suit the new lower...some of the stems are welded in at the bottom. You'd then need to remove the weld first then press it out. Not sure exactly what the FZR is like there. Nothing's impossible... SR  |
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Post by hopwheels on Oct 16, 2006 11:36:42 GMT -5
I'll get ahold of the triples first maybe, before popping for a whole front end assembly and see if there's a workable solution. My thought is that the front end would be more stable, solid, and a wider wheel possible. Thinking 2.75x18 rear and 2.5x18 front? I think the FZR had 17 fronts, if they were and an 18 isn't workable, then I may be overthinking this and just stick with the XS front end. Not sure about going to a 17 wire wheel front... wish my brain would just turn off on some of this sometimes Gary Hopwheels |
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Post by StewRoss on Oct 17, 2006 2:48:06 GMT -5
Hi, The R6 front on my new bike normally had a 17 on the end...no problem really. I am fitting 18" front and rear in any case. The Japanese seem to favour 17" wire wheels...often with short forks as well...it lowers the front considerably. Not for me though...I like the more classic 18's. SR |
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Post by shibuyagas78 on Oct 21, 2006 5:38:35 GMT -5
I will see if i can get you some good info on the mods you are talking about. One of my suppliers here in Japan is the King of the FZR and TZR converts. He does the forks/tripple and rear ends every other day (they build about 15 SR's a month!!). I will be there in about 10-14 days for a visit so will ask what is involved and try to post some pics if you like.
The Japanese like 17 inch conversion as well as you know, they say the bike turns in quicker??? dont know about that? Ys gear also supplier the mag wheels in different sizes, same as the mags we know but in down sized versions, it was a trend a while ago (last year) but at 220,000 yen mmmm well
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Post by StewRoss on Oct 21, 2006 17:33:22 GMT -5
Hi, The Japanes bikes would probably turn in quicker with the short forks for sure...the ground clearance might be compromised somewhat through fast turns though? Some of the bikes have the lower frame tube steeply angled down at the front because of this... There's a nice looking cafe racer by Posh that has a TZ style tank on it etc. The frame looks very low at the front on that one; it'd be interesting to see how it went clearance wise when it was way over in a corner...also steepening them up a lot may make them self-steer in the corners as well... SR |
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Post by shibuyagas78 on Oct 29, 2006 8:44:51 GMT -5
The Posh bike is very nice! I ve seen it in the flesh a 3 or 4 times now and I still get drawn to it, I wish some one would start making a replica TZ tank with the tunnel to suit the SR, It works well with the Stinky seat as well. It is comon here to see low front ends with the forks clamped two inches higher up the forks, usually just for looks is the reason guys do it! (after seeing bikes like the POSH bike they just want the look)...I found a SR custom book at a second hand book shop walking home a few nights ago, it has a step by step guide with pics and text (all in Japanese of course) how to do the FZR/TZR tripple and rear swing arm. Hows your Japanese hopwheels???
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Post by hopwheels on Oct 29, 2006 11:41:39 GMT -5
Oh man shibuyagas78, wish I did read Japanese for that. Any info you can find out and post would be appreciated!! Thanks!
Gary
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Post by sjef on Oct 29, 2006 16:24:15 GMT -5
Hallo shibuyagas78,
can you make a copy ocr/pdf file of that article? than we can translate it with a translator engine.
regards sjef
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Post by robomod on Oct 29, 2006 19:14:32 GMT -5
Translators dont really work with Japanese.
Type something in Babelfish, translate it itno Jp, then back into english, and something totally different comes back.
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Post by shibuyagas78 on Oct 29, 2006 22:59:46 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I can make a PDF and probably translate it into english as well! Just need to stay off the Sake for a day or two to get the brain around the tech bits...! I might do it in a few weeks when i get back to Aus... I dont have a scanner set up here in Japan, and a little busy now with only a few weeks left here it going to be a frenzy to get all my work done in time but will get it sorted for you soon...A few photo shoots to do this week, one scheduled at 1am in the morning this week will be of a very nice SR running lots of YO(&*&&% parts ,MJD TMR 40mm carb is unbelievable! I rode this bike before the dyno runs and after.... Ive never had such throttle response on an SR before! and sounds so sweet through the carbon /Ti exhaust ....
Translators work well if you know the right ones to use... and there is a few tricks! easy option for me is to get the Japanese girl who works for me to do it though....In any case I will get it sorted... if anyone is stuck doing the mod "now" just email and ask a question....and will try to send you an answer...
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Post by StewRoss on Nov 4, 2006 0:52:18 GMT -5
Hi, I reckon that someone in Japan would make replicas of the tanks for sure...if not I know where you could get one made here in Aus anyway. My tank was from a 350A or B and it was modified to fit the SR by Bill Byles in Adelaide in '82. He did great work. It only cost me $25 to buy it (I think)...must be getting old...Bill put a tunnel in it and cut it back to go around the oil filler. It still has the baffles in it. I used the original fuel tap on my Honda racer. I fitted a YZ tap to the tank once it was done. SR |
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Post by shibuyagas78 on Nov 4, 2006 10:47:40 GMT -5
No luck in finding replica TZ tanks in Japan!
I know ever tank made here for the SR and many for other models, and just about everyone who makes thems. No one makes the TZ tank as a replica, the posh bike had an origianl tank modified to fit. The early TZ tanks are hard to find now, and if you do find one it will cost a furtune!!! Well here in Japan any way!
I dont fancy the dollars i have seen old tanks sell for especially if it needs to be modified, I would be interested in knowing who you suggest in Aus to make one.
I know someone who can make them out of fiberglass but the wait is 6-12 months... so...... Moto-tipo here does a nice tank that is similar but a fair bit narrower. I will keep looking if i find an original we can replicate it our selves with the right tunnel, now and then you find a nice old bike in the country just sat in an old shed waiting to be taken away and given a new life again!
If anyone has an old TZ tank they dont want let me know!
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