raggy
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Post by raggy on May 2, 2024 12:32:28 GMT -5
Hi, I am new to the forum so probably posting this in the wrong area, I have a 1999 SR500 originally a Japanese Import.
I am not used to the PRI on the fuel tap, i have tried turning the bike over with PRI on but the bike does not get enough fuel to start, plug barely any fuel on it, when it does start runs like a sewing machine and drives spot on. Should the pipe that goes to the carb inlet have fuel in or is it used just to draw air and then fuel from the carb, very hard to start only due to lack of fuel. Any help towards solving this would be appreciated. Had tap of and diaphragms look fine. thanks Raggy
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Post by stevep on May 2, 2024 14:19:23 GMT -5
Hi Raggy and welcome to the forum! The vacuum line from tap to inlet manifold should definitely not have fuel in it but if you have checked the diaphragm then you should be fine. Use a clear tube in its place to check for presence of fuel in the vac line. That line uses the pulses from the piston to operate the petrol tap. (Safety feature.) If you can be sure the tap is not the issue then maybe the carb is the next place to look. Maybe you could give us a quick run down of what carb/air filter/exhaust set up you have. That would guide some hopefully useful responses for you. One thought occurs: If the inlet manifold hasn't been renewed in a while it's likely the culprit and you're getting too much air. They live a tough life bolted to the cylinder and replacement every few years is the norm but often overlooked. The metal parts company with the rubber. Japanese imports (if fitted with original carb, usually a BST34 CV) are set to run very lean so the set up of the carb is critical. Anything else that messes with that, like a manky inlet manifold, will cause issues similar to yours.
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Post by stevep on May 2, 2024 15:01:02 GMT -5
On the carb front: If you end up adjusting the pilot screw, don't forget that being near the front of the standard carb, the pilot screw governs fuel (not air) and turning it in will make mixture leaner (and vice versa.) The standard position is 1.5 turns out.
The screw may be capped if untouched since it left the factory. The pilot screw assembly has a tiny o ring at its base and if this is flat and hard with age, you won't achieve a true 1.5 turns out. You may need to come out a bit more, maybe an eighth of a turn more.
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raggy
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Post by raggy on May 2, 2024 15:17:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, the pipe to the inlet manifold is clear with no sight of fuel in it, i will check to see the make of carb, it has standard air filter but a short silencer from webike Japan. The bike seems to smell of fuel but when i take the plug out its only just wet slightly, certainly not flooded. Thanks again. Raggy
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Post by stevep on May 2, 2024 15:30:27 GMT -5
Bike smells of fuel: Have you checked the carb overflow tube for drips or wet end when you touch it? Could indicate sticking float or float height incorrectly set. Is bike new to you and what do you know of its previous use before it came to you? Has it been laid up a long time before coming to you?
If you disconnect petrol tap and switch to prime with jam jar at the ready, does fuel flow freely? Thinking maybe petrol tank cap vent blocked. If it doesn't flow freely on prime, try opening the fuel tank cap and see if fuel flows.
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Post by stevep on May 3, 2024 2:01:22 GMT -5
Sorry to spam you with replies, but your situation sounds like mine when I first got my bike. Given the JDM models are set to run lean, the apparent lack of fuel on the plug may be a red herring. More likely some other factor(s).
Already mentioned pilot fuel screw, tank cap vent, inlet manifold and float. Have you checked the pulse coil air gap? A critical setting for reliable easy starting. Also your shorty silencer is probably not helping as you won't be getting the same back pressure you would be with the standard silencer (assuming everything else is standard.)
I had a stainless downpipe that was effectively a big bore pipe compared to the twin skinned original and I needed to add a torque cone to achieve the right back pressure. Once I'd done that (and got all the other settings right) my starting woes were all in the past.
Again, sorry to bombard you but hopefully your solution lies somewhere in the above info. (My bike was an import too and needed going right through to get sorted. But once sorted has never failed me.)
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raggy
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Post by raggy on May 4, 2024 15:55:05 GMT -5
Hi Steve, i replaced the filler cap with a new one also the inlet rubber, the carb is a Mikuni and looks reasonably new. I am not sure if this is a standard carb. Raggy
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Post by stevep on May 4, 2024 16:43:47 GMT -5
Pics needed then at this point.....
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gundj
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Post by gundj on Jun 15, 2024 7:30:43 GMT -5
The pulse coil air gap? was mentioned as a reason for difficult starting. How do I check this?
Best Regards
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Post by stevep on Jun 15, 2024 11:20:50 GMT -5
Hi, see attached and apologies for low resolution of image. Hoping you can read enough to make sense of it. Attachments:
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