Petes2Wheels
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Post by Petes2Wheels on Apr 3, 2024 22:22:56 GMT -5
Hi All, I am doing the top end of my 84 SR400. What do you use for the valve guides remove and install? The manual says use the Yamaha valve guide remover and installer. Can't find them anywhere online. Seen some use a hammer and a centre punch or socket. For the valve lapping how far do you go and what do you use? I have a valve lapper big enough for the exhaust side but not for the intake side. I got the valve lapping compound. For the piston I can do std compression of 9:1 or can go 10:1 on the piston. Thoughts?
There is no youtube videos on valve guides out there on the valve guides and lapping/reaming.
Thanks
Pete
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Post by andy on Apr 5, 2024 13:08:27 GMT -5
pete, I'm sure others will chime in but DO NOT use a centre punch or socket but DO use a soft brass or aluminium punch around 12mm dia or similar would be perfect,basically something of a softer material than the guide and a smaller diameter ideally so you can punch completely through the head if that makes sense.If it proves to be hard going getting initial movement you could warm the head up to expand the aluminium [in the oven or gently with a blowtorch]. I recently checked mine and found the wear to be on the valve stem and not the guide [ I just renewed the inlet valve ].
Its not easy to explain the valve lapping in procedure but I'm sure its got to be on youtube somewhere and not difficult once your used to the technique. You don't need any specialised kit,just a lapping stick with the rubber plungers on either end.
Take your pick on compression ratio's but I'm saying any increase puts extra load on the bottom end bearings but just my opinion.
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Petes2Wheels
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Post by Petes2Wheels on Apr 5, 2024 20:06:02 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Will try and find something to use. The valve seals are buggered so will be replacing them. Planning on going stock size everything then. Have done valve lapping on cars but not motorcycles.
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neal
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Post by neal on Apr 6, 2024 4:51:01 GMT -5
Mate,
Dave Mitchell doing guides on old BSA. Renowned mechanic so should be helpful. Not a job I have tackled myself so good luck. Let us know how you get on.
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Post by andy on Apr 6, 2024 5:46:52 GMT -5
Exactly !!
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Post by stevep on Apr 7, 2024 2:55:52 GMT -5
Referring to increased compression ratio, minor 'improvement' in performance but all such changes mean that you increase the number of things that all need to be in perfect order before the bike will start easily and reliably. A bike in stock trim has a much broader and more forgiving range of conditions that allow for easy starting. That's certainly a factor in UK riding where long lay ups for winter are the norm.
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neal
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We may need a bigger hammer.
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Post by neal on Apr 7, 2024 3:41:37 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Will try and find something to use. The valve seals are buggered so will be replacing them. Planning on going stock size everything then. Have done valve lapping on cars but not motorcycles. Mate, Use OEM Yamaha seals when replacing. More expensive than pattern parts but not an area to try and save cash. I fitted bronze guides from Kedo when re doing head but these needed turning to fit before inserting, a job I left to engineering shop.
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Petes2Wheels
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Post by Petes2Wheels on Apr 7, 2024 4:50:10 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Will try and find something to use. The valve seals are buggered so will be replacing them. Planning on going stock size everything then. Have done valve lapping on cars but not motorcycles. Mate, Use OEM Yamaha seals when replacing. More expensive than pattern parts but not an area to try and save cash. I fitted bronze guides from Kedo when re doing head but these needed turning to fit before inserting, a job I left to engineering shop. Will go Yamaha for sure. KEDO Australia sell those bronze guides but say they need to be fitted professionally. They also sell the stock ones which are a straight swap. Have found Kedo Australia do sell a lot of stock Yamaha parts along with thier own gear. There is no engineering shop in town so it is all on me to do the work myself. Lucky enough the guides are ok, but valves and seals need to be done.
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