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Post by colinjay on Nov 10, 2008 2:23:45 GMT -5
You know how it is, the SR has been behaving badly in its normal recalcitrant manner. You have worked yourself into a sweaty lather trying to kickstart it and don't want to try push starting it down the hill for fear that you will only have to push the horrid thing back up the hill to the shed when it still refuses to start. After pondering this situation earlier this year I though that it was time to put one of the Honda stationary engine from the corner of the shed to good use. After a bit of calculation and design I came up with my design. On Sunday, I finally got the Mk I version of my starting rollers to what you see in the picture. I still need to make up some covers, but they were complete enough to try and start a bike. I fire up the engine, and got my XT's rear wheel up on the rollers, as it should be the easiest of my current crop of 500s to start with its worn out / low compression motor. Anyway, once up an rolling I found it quite a job to keep the bike in position, and the rear wheel seemed to be going much quicker than I anticipated. I descided to put the front wheel on the rollers and see how fast the speedo said the bike was going. 95kph!! Bugger, no wonder I was having trouble keeping it on the rollers. I did a quick review of my calculations and found some fundamental flaws in my math. Hopefully I can correct the situation with a new set of pullies to slow the speed of the rollers down to a much slower speed and I won't have to do a full redesign. Then there will be no more need to worry about getting all hot and bothered starting my racer again. CJ
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Post by mattb on Nov 10, 2008 4:52:08 GMT -5
You know how it is, the SR has been behaving badly in its normal recalcitrant manner. You have worked yourself into a sweaty lather trying to kickstart it No, I've risen beyond this, like a Zen master, like wise patient monk, like the bigger man who is prepared to walk away from a fight! Three kicks, maybe four, "She won't start? Well, time for a rest!" I was sick of getting head-aches, and I think my SR is some kind of spiritual teacher who embodied himself in mechanical form to pass great training in wisdom onto me!
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Post by StewRoss on Nov 10, 2008 5:14:28 GMT -5
Ah yes Grasshopper, you are learning the ways of the single... SR
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Post by tc on Nov 10, 2008 7:44:53 GMT -5
Hi guys here I was just thing it was just my bike that is a female so bloody cantankerous , if she wants to start then ok if not come back next tuesday and we will talk then (MAYBE)..TC
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Post by davewfc603 on Nov 10, 2008 19:27:26 GMT -5
Great picture, I've thought of doing that setup with wheels so I can tow it. Hey that is also what my work area looked like. I got to the point of not being able to find half of my engine. I feel normal now, thanks Dave
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Post by pcnsd on Nov 10, 2008 22:11:21 GMT -5
Perhaps it would be better to make the start roller into a cable go round ala a ski lift, you could push start the bike down the hill and if it doesn't start use the cable to come back. PC
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Post by davedunsboro on Nov 11, 2008 5:20:56 GMT -5
Nice one Col! The"Ludites"may just turn in their graves to see such a device! I saw one of these devices at a historic race day & it was two rollers set up like yours but twice as long . All the guy did then was jack up his HiAce & place it under the rear wheel to one edge ,lower it down & start the vehicle up & put it into gear(he probably had a throttle control). It started a Norton up easy as !Cheers Dave.
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Post by mattb on Nov 11, 2008 5:40:04 GMT -5
How small could an engine be and still do this job? Could it be electric? One could turn the SR into a single-seater, fit a small engine to the rear of the bike where the last of the seat was, with a folding roller (a roller on a folding arm) that folds down onto and against the rear tyre which, with the bike on a good centre stand, is off the ground. Elaborate enough, but not too much so for an SR kook (or ageing or injured fanatic), and there you've got your starter for your road SR! Cover it over with some top-box looking piece of neatness.
Colin, you might be onto a money-maker!
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Post by davedunsboro on Nov 12, 2008 2:35:42 GMT -5
I've also seen an angle grinder used to drive the rollers too. What about that system they had on those old Victa mowers ,that wind up spring & release thingamy! Getting carried away now. My ultimate solution is ------ just have 1 electric start bike for those I cant be bothered kick starting moments ! Hey it works for me ,cheers Dave.
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Post by mattb on Nov 12, 2008 5:52:21 GMT -5
My ultimate solution is ------ just have 1 electric start bike for those I cant be bothered kick starting moments ! Yeah, I ride a GR650 five or six days out of seven! Life has become less stressful since I started (the SR was previously my only transport for a year). Miss the SR in between, though
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