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Post by mattb on May 31, 2007 6:25:24 GMT -5
Hey all. A question about wiring up my indicators. My new '78 came to me with the indicators detached - apparently the laws in South Australia are such that it doesn't require indicators. Victoria is a little less relaxed, and I'm trying to hook them up. Reading the threads I just got over the shock of finding a three-pronged flasher relay, and I see that I can still use a two pronged one if the (big!) old thing is bung. Now, I have a Triumph back end fitted, with no wires poking out under the mud guard to hook the indicators into. However, near to and coming off the flasher relay is a set of wires connecting to nothing, pointing in a direction suggestive of the indicators, and I assume they're it. Now forgive my lack of technical terminology, but with wires on the bike you have connections consisting of something like a plug on one wire, which goes inside something like a socket on the other wire (please enlighten my vocabulary). What I've found here is four wires and three sockets: - two of the wires go into a dual socket - two sockets as one piece, while the two other wires are each a single socket. Does anybody know what I do with these - how I get from the dual wires of my indicators to these wires, if they are the right ones? Thanks, Matt Ps a question for the aussies: I'm trying to get this done for a group ride on Sunday (I'll otherwise get an auto-electrician on the case early next week), but am I required to have indicators at the moment, given that on paper it is only a week since purchase and the bike is still registered in SA and so under their laws (till the 6th June)? I'm quite getting into the old fashioned hand signals!  |
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Post by milkman on May 31, 2007 10:51:46 GMT -5
Mate, if its regoed in SA, you might get away with it.
Until some over zealous bike hating cop pulls you over, you explain its SA, but then he says your licence is in Victoria, so you're either in trouble for not converting your rego quick enough (i'd lie and say you just bought the bike) or if you are infact from SA then you should change your licence.
I would run with it. My indicators dont work, and I haven't had a problem yet.
Most cars in NSW never use their indicators, and as long as your not drawing any untoward attention to yourself.
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Post by wotavidone on May 31, 2007 18:55:20 GMT -5
Got news dood. SA rules same as everywhere else - if the bike was fitted with indicators when built, it is supposed to still have them.
However, most cops OK with older bikes and trail bikes having them taken off, as long as you are doing the handsignal thing when they see you.
Mick
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Post by devon on May 31, 2007 20:11:44 GMT -5
I’ve had an XL go though Regency Park in SA, without blinkers, they came with indicators, but deemed, because of age, to be pre-compliance, lucky, I’m not sure.
Big fan of SRs, "thumpertalk" is also a good resource for singles. Seen a few nice SRs in South Australia, the guy who runs down Sir Donald Bradman drive, to the beach side, nice bike.
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Post by colinjay on May 31, 2007 22:38:15 GMT -5
From 1975 onwards, Australian Design Rules (ADR's) have require all motorcycles sold in Aust that can be registered for road use (with the exception of a few Agricultural models) to be fitted with indicators. To register a bike in SA it need to have blinkers fitted if was made after '75 and was fitted with indicators when original made and isfitted with an ADR compliance plate.
Having said that, the registration inspection system in SA is nowhere near as anal as it is in NSW and VIC, so it is possible to get a bke through what is more of a stolen vehicle check than compliance / roadworthy inspection with out blinkers fitted. This is even more so in smaller country towns, where you normally front your vehicle to the local police for a check, the send the paper work and money into the big smoke for processing. Case in point being when I registerd my 1965 Honda S600, the police officer took everthing that I wrote on the form as true, punched the engine and chassis numbers into the computer, said that there were no records of the car in the system and duely signed the paper work. I then took the paper work into Regency Park and they took my money, no further questions asked! I have had the same experience registering 2 of my other classic Honda bikes as well.
But I have digressed, in the end, to comply with the law, a SR500 registered in SA should be fitted with blinkers, the same as is required in other states.
CJ
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Post by mattb on May 31, 2007 22:57:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. I guess I'm a bit sensitive about the matter after being booked earlier in the year, at the financially worst possible time, for not using my indicator; though I got their attention for this when, seeing the lights ready to change, I gunned the GT550 with that loud pipe down the left hand turning lane and out in front of them just as the lights changed to green - they were in an unmarked car. But that was during a blitz in a busy holiday town in the new year, whereas this ride will be on a quiet rainy day and I'll be behaving very well!  |
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Post by davedunsboro on Jun 1, 2007 6:24:02 GMT -5
Hey Matt I'd just do what us leckies call a splash test . Just bare back the 2 wires on 1 of your indicators turn on the ignition switch, turn indicator switch to either left or right & have a poke around to see what comes on . Start with what you think is or maybe obvious first , you may surprise yourself . Stop if you see big sparks little ones are ok . This method works for me as a multimeter doesn't work for me on auto stuff cheers Dave.
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Post by mattb on Jun 2, 2007 5:13:07 GMT -5
I managed to get the indicators attached and working, using the Force (couldn't make heads nor tails of the Haynes manual electrical schemata, but that's probably my fault, not the manual's). For the reference of any future person in my predicament: Rear indicators/flashers: each indicator had two wires, one black, and then a coloured one each. The sockets available were three: a black dual one, and then a brown one, and a blue one. The black wire from each indicator hooked into the dual black wired socket - this is the earth. Then the other wires hooked up - though they didn't match the colour of the socket wires - the socket wire which was brown being left, and the blue was for the right side indicator. I also had to make up extension wires ('bodged special' as I can't solder for the life of me!). Front: inside the headlight. There's another black dual socket - earth again - with two wires leading to it: one wire earthed to the bolt holding the left indicator on, and the other disappearing out of the headlight. I had to make up a wire to attach to this dual socket to earth the other indicator. Leaving that aside, there were three individual wires/sockets. Two were mono-coloured, one dual-coloured. I think there was a brown, which was left again, but then a purple or something, which was right. The single wire from each indicator simply connected here into its respective socket. There was then the dual-coloured one left. I haven't hooked it up yet, but given that the light located on the tachometer - the one which lights up to inidicate that the flashers are on - is not working, I am guessing that this left over wire brings it to bring to life...I just haven't worked out how yet! A new flasher relay also worked wonders - they actually flash now rather than just turn on. A two-pronged one was adequate - one just just loses the self-cancelling action, and who needs luxuries on a kick-start?! On another note, what tool do I use to remove the bolt on top of the fork stanchion, in order to add new fork oil? One of those butterfly keys? (a great massive African one?!!  Cheers, Matt |
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Post by josh20 on Jun 2, 2007 15:51:08 GMT -5
Hi,
If you have the original Yamaha tool kit the opposite end of the spark plug wrench fits right into the fork cap bolts. If you don't have that a 17mm hex key socket should work.
-Josh
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