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Post by pcnsd on Jun 18, 2008 23:18:30 GMT -5
I have a Shindy Daytona Mod. 17-001 linear type steering damper. It is 310mm OAL, the body is 163mm, and the stroke is 90mm with 7 damping positions. I would like to mount to my SR project. Has any here mounted the same or similar? If so can you offer a picture of the installation or a reference to the frame mounting point. I have my motor out of the frame and it occurs to me, I could do a lot of work and need to cut it off after the frame is painted because of inference with something unseen in the current configuration. All advise appreciated
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PC
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Post by marlon on Jun 19, 2008 2:53:30 GMT -5
I believe I've got the same steering damper on my bike.
Sadly, the Japanese instructions that come with it seem to be incorrect with the mounting, or at least on mine it is anyway!
The main bar that holds the damper clamps just above the thing that sticks out of the frame where it gets bigger and the clamp thing goes on that thing and up. But the angle of the main black thing is wide enough to clear your...
This isn't working. I'll try and take some pics and get them on here somehow! Might be a couple of days though mate!
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Post by pcnsd on Jun 30, 2008 19:37:47 GMT -5
Well.... This is how I finally choose to do this, other options are possible. Frame connection, riders left side:  Lower triple tree connection viewed from bottom, plate fabricated from .250" aluminum:  |
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Post by jdbrees on Jul 1, 2008 6:18:30 GMT -5
Nice work, PC.
I want to put clip-ons or Clubmans on my bike, but I keep hearing references to "tank slappers" and a damper sounds like a really good idea.
I've been leaning towards the newer rotary style that fits on top of the top clamp of the triple tree, but they want big $$$ for them.
Looking at the pictures you posted it looks like the rear of the unit will be very close to the engine - not too close I hope!
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Post by pcnsd on Jul 1, 2008 22:03:29 GMT -5
Looking at the pictures you posted it looks like the rear of the unit will be very close to the engine - not too close I hope! Me too. I have a TT that sits next to this one and based on measurements I made, it should be OK. The frame mount is screwed all the way in, so I can adjust out about .5". My hope is I can trim a little bit off. I'll see sometime around August/September, when I finish the project. |
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Post by wotavidone on Jul 2, 2008 1:06:46 GMT -5
These things look trick. And all power to you guys who fit them, but why do you need to?
What causes these tank slappers? Mine doesn't seem to do it, and if it did I'd be really worried that there was something wrong with my bike.
Can anyone offer some explanations as to why some SRs need them and some don't?
Mick
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Post by wotavidone on Jul 2, 2008 1:08:23 GMT -5
PS - lovely piece of engineeering PC. Is that powder coating on the triple clamp?
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Post by marlon on Jul 2, 2008 2:29:40 GMT -5
Wotavidone, I can't speak for anybody else, but I got really bad tank slap when hitting poorly paved road mid corner. It'd throw the whole end lock to lock and d**n near threw me off a couple of times.
After speaking with people who know about such things, I'm pretty sure it's because my front suspension was far too soft and when hitting a mid corner bump it'd change the steering angle and f**k things up royally.
Interestingly, changing the settings on my steering damper seems to affect the way the bike handles quite drastically, in terms of hard braking entering corners etc.
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Post by StewRoss on Jul 2, 2008 3:57:02 GMT -5
Shalom Marlon, Try to set the damper at the least setting that actually assists to prevent undue affects on turning etc...start at the least damping and work up at bit at a time. You might find that the least setting might just be enough to stop the problem. It's also a good practical idea to have the adjustment on the left side (as the one above is) so you can adjust it while riding easily without taking your hand off the throttle, should you need to... I made that mistake myself on my Honda racer...it's on the right. SR  |
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Post by sven on Jul 2, 2008 10:46:34 GMT -5
Shalom Marlon, It's also a good practical idea to have the adjustment on the left side (as the one above is) so you can adjust it while riding easily without taking your hand off the throttle, should you need to... Yep... another good idea is tryin to mount the damper rectangular to the straight line through junction to yoke and steering head axis...  Regards Sven |
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Post by pcnsd on Jul 2, 2008 16:21:44 GMT -5
Is that powder coating on the triple clamp? My triple clamps are just blasted and clear coated using a catalytic lacquer. The lower clamp is somewhat darker due to it's steel heritage. The future color scheme is to be black with silver and gold trim and I am hoping this will fit in the theme. Can anyone offer some explanations as to why some SRs need them and some don't?
I can't speak for others, I choose to install one as a precaution because I have reduced the steering angle and trail. I have come to think that at speed is wrong time to find out you need one. (I just don't bounce as well as I once did.) PC |
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Post by marlon on Jul 2, 2008 19:56:49 GMT -5
Stew and SCM - you're spot on. Didn't think of that. The Vanem one mounts to the right, but now you've mentioned it i might see if i can mount it the other way.
But the bike ain't going anywhere. Conked out last night at a mate's house and refused to start. Feels like my 400 is becoming more like a proper SR!
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Post by StewRoss on Jul 3, 2008 2:30:26 GMT -5
Yes Sven, I am mounting the damper to my new cafe racer across the front of the headstem, above the lower triple clamp...and between the forks. I still have my Hyperpro damper from my SP1 lying around. It has a fairly short stroke though, so I still have to work out the angles etc. carefully...but it will get done in the end... SR |
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Post by caferacercarl on Jul 3, 2008 3:22:51 GMT -5
A steering dampener is to hide the fault of not enough rebound dampening in the rear end, the other thing not to do is fit too tall a rear tyre which alters the steering geometry, my old bike had no damper and did 280k's an hour, [witnessed by over a 100 riders] save your money and get the suspension right. I only had Ikon's on the rear and technoflex single rate springs in the front that suit the xs650, with one rebound hole welded shut and 15w oil, magic ...might build another one..
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Post by chase on Jul 3, 2008 20:07:48 GMT -5
a 280km/h SR500? that's insane!
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